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  ARE WATCHTOWER SOCIETY STATISTICS REALLY TRUSTWORTHY?

  by TerryWalstrom in

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  of these, over 2,000 were admitted to concentration camps.

  1,000 died in prison and concentration camps.

  another 1,000 of jehovah's witnesses died in prisons and concentration camps.".

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  Half banana

  To add in connection with the original question; from the perspective of the Watchtower, the accuracy of the numbers has only small relevance. It’s the power impression given by simply wielding them.
  
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  ARE WATCHTOWER SOCIETY STATISTICS REALLY TRUSTWORTHY?

  by TerryWalstrom in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  of these, over 2,000 were admitted to concentration camps.

  1,000 died in prison and concentration camps.

  another 1,000 of jehovah's witnesses died in prisons and concentration camps.".

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  Having just read the thread may I introduce a thought that the obsession of the JW org with numbers has to do with a need for validation. It was brought to my attention by reading the works of anthropologist Weston La Barre. He suggested that the individual psychotic is not able to support his delusion on his own. If however he can get another individual to believe with him, that his mother was the Virgin Mary for example, then it is called a folie a deux. (delusion of two) Now how would it be if he got one hundred people or ten thousand to believe this psychosis? The large numbers alone would appear to validate the belief.

  Since the Watchtower ticks all the boxes for “cult” everything it does is an attempt to validate its authority as a religion and it naively uses anything respectable to hand, like numbers, which might give it more credibility.
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  The Devouring Mother Archetype(jungian) And the Watchtower Corporation's Self Identification As Mother And Jehovah As Father

  by Brokeback Watchtower in

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  2. medical

  the devouring mother must be always listen to and obeyed it is the negative side of the anima image and it rules over the watchtower corporation.

  jehovah(corporation's imaginary sock puppet) is the father figure with his masculine macho swagger he gains victory over every detractor and his huge narcissistic personality demands exclusive devotion from everyone or it's the death penalty, he suffers from an inflated ego and has a very dark and evil shadow due to denial of his dark nature/satan(scape goat).

  the children or rank and file pee on dedicated members of the corporation must now engage in worthless pursuits to satisfy a mood swinging domineering mother and a murderous self righteous father all the while being shown a very contemptible form of conditional love, accompanied with constant death threat reminders and a carrot on a sting to keep them focused on such and busy with worthless pursuits for a hopeless cause.

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  Brokeback, I’ll settle for the archetype of the ’terrible devouring mother’ figure of the JW org leadership. I'm certain they feel a warm glow as they congratulate themselves in their self attribution as the "mother organisation." How far this is from the reality!

  In practice it insists on 'grooming' and demanding absolute unthinking obedience of its putative children but its motive is not maternal in the human sense of devoted care. It is the reverse; it is to profit from its would-be offspring, to maintain a stranglehold and to keep their charges in an infantilised state to feed off them... Nice!
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  Jehovah's Witnesses in deep denial

  by Half banana in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  there can be no more profound form of ignorance than one which prohibits knowledge.

  the watchtower organisation is one of the last remaining dinosaurs to do this.

  instead of considering the biological and ecological complexity of life it gazes into its own oily navel and says with open-mouthed disneyfied wonderment, how marvellous nature is, how sacred jehovah is, how wonderful the governing body are!.

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  Half banana

  Adjusted, my point was that there are not many large organisations such as the JW org with 8 million followers who condemn education. There are of course billions of uneducated and poor who still look to religion for some hope in life.
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  Jehovah's Witnesses in deep denial

  by Half banana in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  there can be no more profound form of ignorance than one which prohibits knowledge.

  the watchtower organisation is one of the last remaining dinosaurs to do this.

  instead of considering the biological and ecological complexity of life it gazes into its own oily navel and says with open-mouthed disneyfied wonderment, how marvellous nature is, how sacred jehovah is, how wonderful the governing body are!.

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  There can be no more profound form of ignorance than one which prohibits knowledge. The Watchtower organisation is one of the last remaining dinosaurs to do this. Instead of considering the biological and ecological complexity of life it gazes into its own oily navel and says with open-mouthed ‘Disneyfied’ wonderment, ”How marvellous nature is, how sacred Jehovah is, how wonderful the governing body are!”

  With deliberate avoidance of learning about the origins of the Bible; it praises its holiness. Without thinking that Jehovah began as a cow headed idol in a minor pagan cult; it worships this god. Everything they hold is without thinking, without investigation and without examination! They confuse and conflate knowledge of the Bible with reality.

  How can anyone understand the Bible without looking at the history of the texts they were formed from? How can the source ideas be understood without knowing the religious and political climate in which they were written... and when and where those ideas were first recorded... and by whom...and for whom...and for what purpose they were borrowed and copied and included in the canon?

  The JW org make the astounding claim that they alone know the intentions of God’s mind, they say that you only need to listen to them for all instruction in life...preposterous! They think they know everything and they try to prevent external information getting to their flock they even cut out information about their earlier history. All this and yet they have never got any one thing right in their whole history. Mistakes being eclipsed by magic "new light."

  They have now invested their corporate hope in the JW mass media propaganda machine. However through the internet, the world is already seeing that this cult religion with its “Bible based beliefs” is looking distinctly out of step with modern life which increasingly offers compassionate, tolerant, science based progress. In turn they are trying to compensate with a squeaky clean ‘televangelist’ image whilst trampling on education, promoting homophobia, shunning family members, stifling personal growth and relishing the claim that their God says he will destroy those who don’t believe in him.

  Jehovah’s Witnesses are in deep psychological denial, what hope is there of them coming clean and admitting the fact?
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  What JW's are afraid of~

  by kairos in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  just putting together a mental list:.

  jehovah .

  jesus.

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  and remember, it is what you fear which controls you...
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  Barings Bank & the JWs

  by Doltologist in

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  in the early 1990s, i was in a meeting.

  we were making some major changes to the main it system of the company i worked for.

  during the meeting i said, 'what would happen if one of our major customers went belly up and shouldn't we build something into the system to cope with this?'.

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  Tall towers with inadequate foundations can easily collapse unexpectedly even after standing for 136 years.
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  Does The Governing Body Have Enemies At Bethel?

  by Brokeback Watchtower in

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  2. scandals

  i would think that a lot of resentment is building up for these for these guys at bethel even though it may not be discussed openly for fear of being abused by the gb in some way.. any way looking at their personality and the extreme phoniness of rubber mouth/face lett, and am#3, and the chicken shit coward leosch who won't even show up in court when subpoena'd to defend his faith or policies, and i'm sure they have many more undesirable traits that repel people instead of attract and that has to work its toll on relationships they have at bethel.. and this shunning thing i'm sure must really erk some at god's house and while they may not be free to voice their discontent i feel it must be building because these guys are complete nincompoops when it come to reality and the only way they know how to give direction is with fear and guilt which i'm sure is rubbing a lot of people the wrong way.. and let not forget the issues that are raise when they stole all the congregations savings and the pledge drive for more cash, ban on higher education, lawsuit pay out and etc.... what is this doing to the relation ship they have with legal and accounting i see trouble brewing right thier in the spiritual pair of dice..

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  Bro Jeramy, can you further elucidate how non gb members are able to force their hand? Have you personal experience of the workings in the upper echelons?

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  Kingdom Interests

  by punkofnice in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in a few words, how would you describe what 'kingdom interests' really means?.

  i think it means watchtower corporation's assets, posessions and rules..

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  Half banana

  Punky, I think that "kingdom interests" in Watchtower talk ultimately means feeding the personal pride that each member the gb has in perpetuating their imagined privilege as a "God's appointed."

  "Kingdom interests" and "serving Jehovah" are among the rally cries of the gb... all result in greater wealth and glory for the governors and more personal sacrifice in the live's of their flock.

  But hey! It's not working at the moment... to keep that glory they need the money and hence kingdom interests demand they resort to humiliating begging and stealing.
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  Bible Chronology, Egyptology and the Great Flood

  by cappytan in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  fact: bible chronology says the flood occurred between 2348 and 2370 bce, depending on which scholar you listen to.

  fact: the great pyramid of giza was constructed 200 years before, in c. 2560 bce..

  so, if you believe in a literal interpretation of noah's flood, you believe that the egyptians built a great civilization, were destroyed by the flood in 2370 bce, and then somehow, they reappeared immediately after the flood, picked right back up where they left off without skipping a cultural beat.. oh, and isn't it ironic that legitimately studying the great pyramid of giza debunks jw mythology now?

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  @ marmot, are you aware that the word mammoth is drawn from a Russian dialect word meaning marmot? Mammoths in Siberia always appeared under the ground like giant tusked moles hence the allusion to marmots (from a word meaning earth).